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Nu este inca gata de tradus in Romana.
Dar ma starduiesc sa o termin cat de curand.



1. Introducere
Acest ghid prezinta modalitatea de a atasa retroactiv o unitate Connect Nav+ intr-un Fiat Stilo ce nu a fost dotat din fabrica cu aceasta optiune astfel incat sa functioneze perfect.

Procesul este asemanator si pentru unitatile Connect nav. In acest ghid sunt prezentate mai multe variante pentru a fi mai ieftin sau sa fie exact ca cel original pus de fabrica.

Unde va exista posibiliatea acestei optiuni va fi prezentata astfel incat decizia va apartine in totalitate.

ATENTIE! Procesul de instalare presupune cateva modificari majore ce ar putea duce la pierderea garantiei oferite de producator, de asemenea anumite componente din interior vor trebui modificate sau scoase. Tot in acest proces va fi necesara modificarea instalatiei electrice a masinii. Aceste riscuri va apartin in deciazi luata de a urma acest ghid in intalarea acestui sistem. La scrierea acestui ghid s-au facut eforturi pentruc a modificarile necesare sa fie descrise cat mai corect posibil, totusi cel care a scris acest ghid, eu, cel care l-am tradus sau ClubFiat.ro nu pot fi facuti responsabili pentru stricaciunile sau daunele aduse ca urmare a aplicarii acestui procedeu.


2. Problema clipirii numarului de kilometri...
Ei bine problema a fost depistata...
In principiu dupa ce unitatea Connect nav+ a fost instalata numarul de kilometri pascursi de masina, si afisati in bord poate clipii uneori.

Aceasta problema apare datorita computerului de bord ce depisteaza un nod strain in instalatia electrica a masinii. Problema poate fi rezolvata instaland un dispozitiv ce permite o intarziere de 4 secunde pana la actionarea demarorului, astfel incat computerul de bord va avea timp sa finalizeze procedura de verificare inainte ca unitatea Connect Nav+ sa devina activa.

Aceasta procedura este descrisa in ultima parte a ghidului (daca considerati ca este deranjant).

3.Doua modalitati de instalare
Daca masina este in garantie, pentru a nu se ajunge la pierderea ei trebuie schimbata ttoata ramura instalatiei electrice din bord si reconectarea tutror componentelor (instalatie aer conditionat, computereul de bord etc) in noua ramura electrica, acest procedeu costant aproximativ 400-500 EURO.

Daca masina este iesita din garantie se poate opta pentru modificarea instalatiei electrice manual.
Este chiar simplu si nu costa decat firele necesare si eventual conectori in jur de 25-30 EURO.

Alegerea va apartine.


4. Ceva la care sa va ganditi inainte...
Ramura electrica pentru Connect Nav+ originala montata de fabrica ar eun fir ce vine de la nodul de control al airbag-ului direct conectorul unitatii COnnect Nav+. Datorita sensibilitatii sistemului airbag au decis ca in cazul modificarii instalatiei electrice existente sa nu trag acest fir.

Firul este utilizat in caz de accident activand automat serviciul de SOS al unitatii (care necesita oricum o taxa pentru a putea fi folosit).


5. De ce veti avea nevoie
O unitate Connect Nav+ sau Connect Nav! (verificati pe Ebay sau pe la dezmembrari)
La Fiat preturile sunt in jur de 1800-2000 EURO pentru o unitate reconditionata si in jur de
3500 EURO pentru o unitate noua. Unitatea poate fi diponibila in 3 culori (negru - "standard balack", gri - "Abarth grey" si argintiu - "new X-Box/Schumacher").

Pe langa unitatea Connect Nav+ va mai fi nevoie de alte componente detaliate la mometul utilizarii.
Codurile componentelor sunt cele originale pentru Stilo.
- Un nou cadru al bordului pentru Connect Nav; FIAT part number 46790149; pret aproximativ 15 EURO.
- Ramura electrica pentru GPS/GSM; FIAT part number 46760222; pret aproximativ 80 EURO.
- A doua ramura electrica pentru GPS/GSM; FIAT part number 51730980 (3dr), 51730981 (5dr), 51730982 (Multiwagon); pret aproximativ 80 EURO.
- Antena GPS/SGM; FIAT part number 51732347; pret aproximativ 210 EURO. (ATENTIE! Daca instalarea se face pe versiunea cu 3 usi si spoiler va fi necesara o antena cu unghi diferit; FIAT part number 51732349; pret aproximativ 250 EURO.)
- Antena; FIAT part number 46772567; pret aproximativ 10-15 EURO.
- Microfon; FIAT part number 735303207, pret aproximativ 80 EURO. (Microfonul de la Lancia Ypsilon este identic, FIAT part number 735346218, pret aproximativ 6-8 EURO. Daca este necesar doar microfonul nu si partea din plastic (are alta culoare la Lancia) daca veti la Stilo alarma sau trapa, atunci puteti economisii cam aproximativ 70 EURO.
Ca scule: surubelnita cu varf floare, chei imbus, surubelnita cruce, nimic in plus fata de sculele obisnuite. De asemenea vor fi necesare cele 2 key pentru inlaturarea Radio-casetofon/CD/MP3 Blaupunkt.

6. Schimbare sasiului (cadrului) de sub bord
Scoate-ti sistemul stereo original, veti observa 4 suruburi imbus cu "floricica" ce fixeaza sasiul sistemului stereo. Desurubati-le.

Apoi, desurubati cele 2 suruburi de la baza sasiului care prind sistemul de control al incalzirii, acestea trebuiesc doar slabite pentru a scoate cadrul.

Optiune: Partea de jos a a cadrului este fixata d eo piesa d eplastic cu doua varfuri ce vine din panoul de incalzire. Probabil ca aecasta piesa este utilizata in asamblare, si probabil ca are o banda de cauciuc in partea de fixare a cadrului, deoarece in sasiu se poate observa ca acele gauri corespun zaotare sunt mult mai mari. Asa ca se poate fie sa taiati acele ridicaturi cu un cutter ascutit, deoarece nu au nici un scop (recomandat), sau sa demontati toata consola centrala pentru a desface panoul de incalzire si recupera piesa de plastic intacta. (Acest lucru va lua mult timp si presupune demontarea multor subansamble!)

Indiferent de ce alege-ti, pasul urmator este sa scoate-ti cadrul vechi. Acest lucru se face usor apasandu-l sus si jos la mijloc (sus centru si jos centru).

Apoi pozitiona-ti nou cadru pentru Connect Nav+, si acesta trebuie incovoiat la fel. Odata ce a fost introdus, remontati suruburile (si subansambelel de la consola centrala daca le-ati demontat).

Se poate observa ca si fara acele varfuri de plastic unitatea sta foarte bine fixata.


7. Instalarea firului de plus prin contact
Pentru cele 3 fire noi trase este necesar sa se demonteze panoul cu instrumentele de bord. Trebuie mai intai demontata bateria pentru a prevenii toate probleme ce pot apare.

Pentru a demonta panoul cu instrumentele de bord proceda-ti in felul urmator:

Se demonteaza cele 3 suruburi imbus "floricica" de la capacul de jos al coloanei de directie, desprinde-ti capacul de jos prin tragere in sus catre volan (este mult mai simplu regland volanul astfel incat coloana de directie sa fie extinsa la maxim si lasand levierul liber sa se miste cand se demonteaza capacul).

Apoi sunt alte 2 suruburi imbus care tin partea de sus a carcasei coloanei de directie.
Scoate-ti carcasa complet.
Se desurubeaza cele 2 suruburi cap cruce ce fixeaza panoul d einstrumente in partea de jos.
Se scoate invelisul d ematerial ce acopera spatiul creeat intre bord si carcasa coloanei cand volanul este in pozitia extrtema.
Se desfac cele 2 suruburi imbus ce fixeaza panoul cu instrumentele de bord in partea de sus.
Se ajusteaza coloana de directie astfel incat sa fie cat mai jos si ca tmai departata de bord (se blocheaza asa).

Cu grija inlaturati partea de plastic de la partea de sus a panoului cu instrumente apoi incercati sa ridicati panoul cu instrumente.
Cand pute-ti desface-ti conectorul din spate apasand pe lamela si apasand manerul rosu in cealalata parte.








Manoeuvre the instrument cluster away from the dash, paying particular attention to the bottom lugs and the wiring on the steering column.
Now, you need to insert a pin and wire into the Pin 4 location of the power ISO connector. One way of doing this is to buy the pins from an electronics firm, solder a wire on, and insert into the connector (removing the central yellow bar to allow pin movement), or to buy an ISO extension lead (PC2-36-4) from an Autoleads stockist (e.g. Halfords). That way, you can plug the existing loom in without modifying it at all, and simply cut the wire on the extension. These retail for about £15.

The wire in Pin 4 needs to be the switched output of your time delay circuit. See here for wiring details.

Now continue to the next page without taping anything up or replacing anything.


8. Instalarea firelor pentru microfon
The microphone feed is taken from the header console to connector D20, which lies on the righthand side of the car near to the Body Computer (RHD). A picture of it is shown below. You can see the microphone feed as they will go into one part of the connector and terminate (i.e. have no feed coming out of the other connector).

Poza a doua
Fig 8A (D20 is the all white connector block)

Now, ideally what you need is 2 pins to put in the white connector to take the feed. I was fortunate in that I had a wiring loom to extract wires from. If you haven't got this, you'll need to either splice or chop the wires going into the connector and use these. Once you have, feed it behind the dashboard, behind the instrument cluster, and round to the back of the CN+ unit. Use an appropriate connector to feed it into Pins 9 & 18 of the white connector on the CN+ (a 2-pin digital audio computer connector, such as the one below, is ideal).


Poza a cincea
Fig 8B

The wiring sequence for the microphone is as follows (the pins are actually numbered on the white connector (P20F) of the Connect Nav+ unit):

Prima poza
Fig 8C


9. Instalarea firelor pentru GSM/GPS
The first GPS/GSM wiring loom (46760222) goes from the back of the CN+ unit to the junction behind the “My Car” panel. In the previous step (2.2), you would have already had to remove the Body Computer & Fusebox cover trim, as well as the My Car switch control. The instrument cluster should also still be removed.

Now, the best way to do it is to clip the connectors in on the junction mounting (you’ll see the thick black antenna cable already there, and the connectors on the loom are shaped to fit the mount). Feed the cables at the back of the dashboard, and they’ll come out parallel with the dashboard loom. Continue to take it to the radio loom.

The two cables need to be longer than the standard loom, by about 5 inches or so. Once these are in position, start taping all of the loom modifications (power, microphone, GPS/GSM) together, for both security and an original look.

N.B.: The wires at the CN+ are prone to chaffing against the side of the cage, and you’ll notice that the existing loom has a cloth protector around them all. It is strongly advised to break open the cloth “tube”, enclose all of the new wiring, then retape it up.

Continue taping, moving the wires back as if the CN+ was in to ensure they can move sufficiently and will not be damaged. Tape up all the way back to the right-hand side of the dashboard, using cable ties for added security if necessary.

Now, all wiring is done. Refit the instrument cluster. The My Car switch panel and side trim have to be left off for the second GPS/GSM wiring loom installation.


10. Instalarea unitatii COnnect Nav+
Now that all of the wiring and the cage are installed, the unit can be installed itself. Plug the power and speaker ISO looms in first, followed by the microphone feed connector, then the aerial, and lastly the GPS/GSM wires. Tie down the cables on the unit’s wire traps (these are for the aerial, GPS & GSM cables).

Perform the following test to ensure the time delay circuit is working ok:

With the unit off, turn the ignition on. Make sure the CN+ unit boots up automatically after 4 seconds, and that the mileage on the instrument cluster is not flashing.
If the mileage doesn’t flash, carefully push the unit in (do it slowly as the space behind the unit is tight and there are a lot of cables to go in!).
If the mileage is flashing, there is a fault with your time delay circuit, or it might need adjusting to increase the time delay.


11. Instalarea ramurii secundare GPS/GSM
The second part of the GPS/GSM loom follows a different routing than the main antenna cable.

To fit this, you need to remove the side sill trim (kickplate) from the drivers side; this is done by removing the bonnet release mechanism (simply pull it off towards the passenger side, i.e. on the same horizontal plane), undoing the screw by the bonnet release lever, then simply pulling the trim off (best to start from the side at the middle of the car (B-pillar)).

Connect the cables to the dashboard loom connectors you locked down behind the “My Car” panel, then feed them down behind the black carpet and into the grey cable holders along the sill. You’ll notice that a loom is already there; use black insulating tape to tie the GPS/GSM cables down to secure them and make it look original. Now, the “My-Car” switch panel and fusebox cover trim can be refitted.

Now, the next stage is dependent on whether your Stilo is a 3dr or a 5dr:
For 3door vehicles, you need to either loosen or remove the rear panel. To do this, the bottom squab of the seat needs to be removed (remove the bolt and nut), then the pozidrive screws at the bottom of the panel need to come out also. Unpeel the outer door rubber (peel it from the felt side not the rubber side) to get a gap between the car and the trim panel. Gently pull the trim away (it’ll come quite far so there is no need to give it force) and feed the cable through to the boot compartment (go into the boot, undo the side flap and remove the cubby hole as if you were going to change a lightbulb, and the cable needs to come into this area). Leave the panel away from the car as it is required to do so to drop the roof lining.
For 5door vehicles, remove the rear side sill trim (kickplate) by simply pulling it. Now, remove the lower B-pillar trim by unpeeling both door rubbers as with the 3door, then gently pulling the trim off. Continue to route the cable into the boot compartment (again as with the 3door); leave the lower B-pillar trim off, as it is required to do so to drop the roof lining.
So now, the cable should be behind the drivers’ side boot carpet ready for the next stage. Contine to tape up the GPS/GSM loom to the loom already being routed this way, and leave all trim you've removed / loosened as it is.


12. Tragerea firelor pentru antena prin plafon
Now comes the fun part! I will try and list the 5dr and 3dr methods, although I personally have only done this on a 3dr. Most bolts for this are Torx T30.

First, remove the front sunvisors (2 bolts, and undo wiring if yours have the lights fitted by the mirrors), the header console (either by pulling it down if you have an alarm or Sky Roof or by pushing in the two tabs and pulling across if you have the sunglasses holder), the front ceiling light, all 4 (3 on later models) grab handles (open handle, use a small flatblade screwdriver to open the cover then remove the bolt underneath), the rear ceiling lamp and support frame (if fitted, the lamp just pulls down, the support frame unscrews and unclips!).

Unclip all door and tailgate rubbers at the top and sides (you can remove the whole rubber as we did, just remember which one is which and where the bends are. Usually there is a painted mark on them as a locator point).

Unclip the top half of each A-pillar trim by pulling it towards the centre of the car; there is no need to remove it.
Unclip the top and middle of the C-pillar trims by pulling them towards the centre of the car, then lift them up to unclip them from the black lower C-pillar trim. Feed them away from the seatbelt. Pull the backseat backrests forwards, remove the cap protecting the seat striker plate, and unscrew the screw behind (if present, it is on the 3dr, but I do not think it is on the 5dr). Unscrew the drivers side lower C-pillar trim, then pull it away and remove the clip. It is best to replace it with a new one (14591887); this can be done at a later date.

Since the rear card is either loose or removed on the 3dr, or the lower B-pillar trim has been removed on the 5dr, you need to simply undo the two screws, at the bottom, then evenly pull the drivers side upper B-pillar trim away from the car. Using long-nose pliers to get at the clips might help. Simply pull the top of the passenger one away gently to loosen the hold on the roof lining; there is no need to remove it as per the drivers side.

Now, go around the roof lining to ensure it is all free and nothing is catching it. At this point it may be starting to drop, so get an assistant to hold the front of it (ensure their hands are clean as the headlining marks quite easily). Now, lower the front seat backrests down as far as they will go (i.e. if you were going to sleep on them).

Gently pull the roof lining away from the back of the car, as it is attached by velcro pads here. With assistance, position it on the dashboard and back seats (with headrests down) as this provides ideal support. Ensure it is not moved unnecessarily.

Now that the roof lining is down, go into the boot compartment and move to the next step.


13. Instalarea antenei
Once the roof lining is down, you'll see the antenna. Simply unclip the aerial connector, unscrew the nut, then gently pull the old antenna away from the car from the outside. Once it's off, clean the area of the roof where the antenna used to be using a mild polish (e.g. glass polish) to remove all debris and dirt, so that the new antenna has a better seat.

Feed the cables through the hole in the roof (to spell it out, the hole is only big enough to fit one connector at a time, so don't try and force all 3 in!!), and seat the antenna base on the roof. Inside the car, bend the cables at a 90-degree angle (as per the old one), and put the locking nut on the thread. Have an assistant ensure the alignment to the roof is ok (i.e. it is running straight in-line with the trajectory-axis of the car), and get them to firmly hold it in place as you tighten the nut to secure the antenna down.

Now, grab the cables we left in the drivers side rear wheelwell, and bring them up the now removed C-pillar. Clip into the existing wiring clips (you'll notice that the radio antenna wire is already there) and follow the wiring exactly, taping it down to the existing for a perfect job. Secure the clips in the holder tray (where the radio antenna join connector is, just like at the "My Car" panel), and clip in the GPS/GSM connectors.

That's it, it's in !!!


14. Repunerea plafonului
This is simply a reversal of the removal procedure. Ensure when you do so that all necessary wiring (e.g. front and rear lights, sunvisor light feeds) are in their correct locations.

When refitting, work from the front of the car to the back, to ensure any minor repositioning will be "ironed-out" as you work systematically backwards and seal the lining with the rear tailgate rubber.

Again, be very careful and very clean-handed!!

One thing not to replace yet is the front header console that attaches to the front ceiling lamp (i.e. replace the lamp, and enusre all necessary wires are fed through, but don't put the console trim back on the lamp unit yet).


15. Instalarea microfonului
The microphone is located in the header console, which would have been removed to drop the roof lining. If you haven’t got a Sky Roof or alarm, then simply connect the 2-pin connector coming from the roof console into the microphone, and then push it up onto the light fitting.
If you have the Sky Roof, an alarm or both, you’ll need to take the microphone out of the new unit (undo the three small screws on the grey plastic framing, and remove the microphone from it) and install into your old unit. Then, plug back in and push the unit complete with microphone onto the ceiling light.


16. Testarea unitatii Connect Nav+
There are two things to test on the unit to ensure it is working correctly:
Wiring Functionality: With the unit and ignition on, press the “Setup” button, followed by pressing one of the “Connect” option buttons four times, then the “Enter” button. An option named “Service” will appear; use the right scroll wheel to select that menu, then press “Enter”. You should have green “OK” / “Present” boxes on all options; the only two that might be red are “CDC (CD Changer) Connected” and “Amplifier Connected” if these two optional equipment units are not fitted.
Microphone: Press the “Tel” button on the unit, then use the right scroll wheel to select “Voice Memo”. Record yourself talking and make sure it is audible by playing it back. If it is, then all is ok.


17. Fixarea unitatii Connect Nav+
Now that all is working, push the unit in and lock it down into the cage. Doesn't it look pretty!!


18. Instalarea cartelei SIM
To get the onboard telephone, text messaging and WAP services to work, you’ll need a SIM Card in the unit (this will also avoid the “SIM Card Missing or Incorrectly Inserted” message on startup.
If one wasn’t supplied with your CN+ unit, you’ll need to get a SIM Card holder from FIAT; part number is 46831352, price is £13 ! Simply insert a SIM Card into the holder and push into the slot on the unit; the system will then logon to your service network.


19. CD cu date pentru Connect Nav+
If you require a Map Data CD or English Setup CD, please see the main Connect Nav+ sticky thread in the Stilo section for further information.


20. Update de software
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A software update has been released for the Connect Nav+ unit, and fixes several bugs and issues that previous software versions had.

Please see my guide here for full information.


21. Circuitul de intarziere a contactului
To achieve the time delay on the ignition feed, you need an electronically controlled time delayed relay.

Why electronic and not a C-R (Capacitor-Resistor) network?
A C-R circuit will not be any good due to the voltage the car outputs when the engine is starting being different to when the ignition is on. So, for example, if you were to forget to allow the “Checking” procedure finish and start the engine straight away, the C-R circuit would give a different time delay (most likely smaller due to increased voltage once the engine is running), causing the CN+ unit to boot-up before the Body Computer has finished it’s CAN Line check procedure and cause the mileage to flash.

With an electronically controlled time delay circuit, the time delay is not voltage dependent, hence it will not matter if you start the engine immediately – the CN+ will still boot-up after the checking procedure and the mileage will never flash.

OPTION 1: A Fully-Integrated Pre-Assembled Unit
This is what we did on the first Connect Nav+ installation, to the 2005 Schumacher.
Supplier is Farnell Electronics on: www.farnell.com
Part Number is: 104027 (put this into their search engine)
This is an OMRON 12v relay with variable delay (just turn the dial to 4)

Here are the connection details:
Pin 13 - Connect to 0v earth
Pin 14 - Connect to +12v ignition feed
Pin 12 - Connect this to Pin 14 above
Pin 8 - Output to your CN+
Leave all the other pins unconnected

Connect Nav+ Fitment Details:
If your doing the Connect installation, then you will have added an ignition feed to Pin 4 of the Power Connector (A). Remove this cable, and it goes on Pin 14 (and Pin 12) of the relay. Pin 8 goes to Pin 4 on the Connect ISO loom. Don't forget to earth Pin 13!

This unit is approximately £30 not including postage.


OPTION 2: Make your own Electronic Time Delay
This is what we did on my 2003 Stilo. The unit ended up being much smaller with the same functionality, and less than half the price!

Below is a circuit diagram of the time delay unit:

Poza a patra
Fig 21A

To build this circuit, I ordered all the parts from Rapid Electronics (www.rapidonline.com). Their part numbers and details are listed below:

11-0015 100U 16V AXIAL ELECTROLYTIC (RC) x2
22-0150 8 PIN 0.3IN DIL SOCKET
62-0604 PACK 100 100K 0.5W CF RESISTOR (RC)
34-0505 64 X 95MM STRIPBOARD (RC)
30-1900 56X31X24MM BLACK ABS BOX (RC)
68-0276 19MM MULTITURN CERMET POT 50K(RC)
82-0336 NE555 SINGLE TIMER (RC)
08-0235 100N CERAMIC DISC CAPACITOR (RC)
47-3130 1N4001 1A 50V SILICON RECTIFIER DIODE RC x2
60-5044 3A PCB FORM A POWER RELAY - 12V (RC)

The list above includes a neat little ABS box to house everything in; you might want to order the next size-up, but we managed to get it all in this box. I would only recommend doing this if you are experienced enough, otherwise it may be worth paying the extra £20 or so to get the pre-assembled unit.

The +12V feed for the time delay is your ignition feed, taken from a location of your choice (the cigarette lighter is recommended with an in-line fuse). It shouldn't draw any major current, so a 3A fuse will be sufficient.
The 0V earth for the unit can be taken from the earth (black wire) on the main ISO power connector for the radio / CN+.

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[myl03]

am gasit sa cumpar o unitate connect nav+ pe net
intrebarea e o pot proba direct cu mufa care o am la cd player?
si se merita avand in vedere ca costa vreo 400 de euro?

[Azzuro]

Iti recomand sa verifici intai daca unitatea incape in locasul vechiului CD player.Am citit pe un forum ca nu ar incape in locasul CD playerului...Bafta!

myl03, on Sep 1 2009, 07:02 PM, said:

am gasit sa cumpar o unitate connect nav+ pe net
intrebarea e o pot proba direct cu mufa care o am la cd player?
si se merita avand in vedere ca costa vreo 400 de euro?

[myl03]

incape perfect
amluat-o deja problema e ca nu stiu exact cum sa o leg
cele doua mufe de la cd player ma ajuta doar sa o pornesc muzica radio nu stiu inca cum o leg la calc masinii
poate se pricepe cineva pe aci....?

[EPoX]

o chestie,
cum pot face ros tde harti ale romaniei ptr navigatie, cum pot face update la soft, cum pot sa-l fac si DVD player si cum pot sa-i conectez IPOD ... poate cineva sa ma ajute cu astfel de raspunsuri ... ?

[Azzuro]

Aici este un anunt prin care se vinde CD-ul cu harti,inclusiv cel al Romaniei!...In rest nu te pot ajuta.Multa bafta!

EPoX, on Sep 9 2009, 02:00 PM, said:

o chestie,
cum pot face ros tde harti ale romaniei ptr navigatie, cum pot face update la soft, cum pot sa-l fac si DVD player si cum pot sa-i conectez IPOD ... poate cineva sa ma ajute cu astfel de raspunsuri ... ?

[Nobrain]

Mi-au picat in mana cele 12 cd-uri cu harti + 3 cu soft de update si audio, mentionate mai sus de Azzuro.
Bag cd-ul cu harti si nika..., sunt hartile bune? compatibile?
Tre sa bag cd-urile de update? si daca da, care? Sa fiu sigur, ca nu cred ca pot sa ii fac back-up si restore
Asa ca mai bine intreb...

[myl03]

am un connect nav+ ce nu mai vrea sa traga cd si cei de la Autotivoli ridica din umeri asa ca sper ca cineva din club sa stie unde as putea repara de preferat vrancea sau bacau

[bogdan111]

Nobrain, on 19 November 2009 - 10:04 AM, said:

Mi-au picat in mana cele 12 cd-uri cu harti + 3 cu soft de update si audio, mentionate mai sus de Azzuro.
Bag cd-ul cu harti si nika..., sunt hartile bune? compatibile?
Tre sa bag cd-urile de update? si daca da, care? Sa fiu sigur, ca nu cred ca pot sa ii fac back-up si restore
Asa ca mai bine intreb...

Exista posibilitatea sa nu fie compatibile!Eu pana acum nu am gasit harta romanie pentru stilo doar un cd care duce pana la Bulgari!

nu cita postul anterior in totalitate !

[auras.tl11]

salut
am o intrebare pentru cei care sunt mai documentati decat mine .
am gasit o unitate navi cea originala de stilo ,dar problema este ca ,inafara de unitate cel care o vinde nu mai are absolut nimik nici macar cartela cu coduri el sustine ca nu mai este nevoie de coduri, acum apelaz la voi cei care stiti daca este ok sa o cumpar asa cum este sau nu am ce face cu ia ,eu o cumpar pentru a o monta in locul vechiului cd original de pe stilo .

multumesc si astept ras cat mai repede .

[Blazer]

Acum ceva timp in urma am gasit sa cumpar si eu o navigatie de Stilo, si pretul era unul ff convenabil dar m-am interesat la cineva care se pricepe si iti mai trebuie multe piese si multa munca pentru a o face sa functioneze ca din fabrica.
Asa la un scurt calcul ieseam mult prea mult ca sa merite investitia, pe langa navigatie iti mai trebuie astea:

Pe langa unitatea Connect Nav+ va mai fi nevoie de alte componente detaliate la mometul utilizarii.
Codurile componentelor sunt cele originale pentru Stilo.
- Un nou cadru al bordului pentru Connect Nav; FIAT part number 46790149; pret aproximativ 15 EURO.
- Ramura electrica pentru GPS/GSM; FIAT part number 46760222; pret aproximativ 80 EURO.
- A doua ramura electrica pentru GPS/GSM; FIAT part number 51730980 (3dr), 51730981 (5dr), 51730982 (Multiwagon); pret aproximativ 80 EURO.
- Antena GPS/SGM; FIAT part number 51732347; pret aproximativ 210 EURO. (ATENTIE! Daca instalarea se face pe versiunea cu 3 usi si spoiler va fi necesara o antena cu unghi diferit; FIAT part number 51732349; pret aproximativ 250 EURO.)
- Antena; FIAT part number 46772567; pret aproximativ 10-15 EURO.
- Microfon; FIAT part number 735303207, pret aproximativ 80 EURO. (Microfonul de la Lancia Ypsilon este identic, FIAT part number 735346218, pret aproximativ 6-8 EURO. Daca este necesar doar microfonul nu si partea din plastic (are alta culoare la Lancia) daca veti la Stilo alarma sau trapa, atunci puteti economisii cam aproximativ 70 EURO.

Decizia iti apartine

[auras.tl11]

nu stiu ce sa fac cel care o vinde spune ca nu cere cod ca el a avuto montata pe un stilo si ca nu a facut nicio modificare ca sa potrivit mufele si oo are de ceva vreme pe masina si merge ca cd vechi doar mp3 si radio fara navi si fara tel si asa as vrea si eu sa o folosesc sa citeasca mp3 si radio nu vreau mai mult momentan ca nu sunt resurse acum va intreb este posibil sa imi mearga si mie ca cd actual al masini ?fara sa ceara cod si alte modificari?
si din poza ce model de navi este?

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[myl03]

e connect nav+ si cand il dai jos de pe o masina si il pui pe alta trebuie cod in mod normal

[danstilo16v]

pune doar mufa de alimentare si audio dar va funtiona doar 20 min dupa care trebe sa il pornesti din nou

[auras.tl11]

mai am o rugaminte la voi
inca nu pot sa iau o decizie daca sa o cumpar sau nu
intrebarea mea este daca cineva imi poate spune din cate cifre e format codu
multumesc

[myl03]

4 cifre

[uscovu]

daca ii faci update de soft nu iti mai trebuie codul acela, am citi asta pe un alt forum dedicat fiat stilo unde explica procedura pas cu pas

[uscovu]

Blazer, on 27 May 2010 - 11:56 AM, said:

Pe langa unitatea Connect Nav+ va mai fi nevoie de alte componente detaliate la mometul utilizarii.
Codurile componentelor sunt cele originale pentru Stilo.
- Ramura electrica pentru GPS/GSM; FIAT part number 46760222; pret aproximativ 80 EURO.
- A doua ramura electrica pentru GPS/GSM; FIAT part number 51730980 (3dr), 51730981 (5dr), 51730982 (Multiwagon); pret aproximativ 80 EURO.
- Antena GPS/SGM; FIAT part number 51732347; pret aproximativ 210 EURO. (ATENTIE! Daca instalarea se face pe versiunea cu 3 usi si spoiler va fi necesara o antena cu unghi diferit; FIAT part number 51732349; pret aproximativ 250 EURO.)
- Antena; FIAT part number 46772567; pret aproximativ 10-15 EURO.
- Microfon; FIAT part number 735303207, pret aproximativ 80 EURO. (Microfonul de la Lancia Ypsilon este identic, FIAT part number 735346218, pret aproximativ 6-8 EURO. Daca este necesar doar microfonul nu si partea din plastic (are alta culoare la Lancia) daca veti la Stilo alarma sau trapa, atunci puteti economisii cam aproximativ 70 EURO.

ok, eu mi-am montat initatea asta pe stilo si nu am cumparat nimic suplimentar (din ce ai mentionat tu)
in loc de ramura electrica si antena GPS am cumparat de pe net o antena GPS cu conetor GT5, pret 49 RON
In loc de ramura electrica si antena GSM am luat o pin dintr-o mufa si l-am adaptat la cealalta mufa GT5 (fara a o modica) si din pinul respectiva am tras un fir la care i-am facut o legatura la antena "stock" de pe plafonul masinii
microfon, am luat unul de la un sistem bluetooth defect, i-am adaptat unei mufe tip "jumper" dintr-un calculator oarecate (se gaseste atasat firului de la LED-ul ce indica activitatea HDD de ex.) si am conectat mufa in spatele sistemului NAV+, in mufa alba, in pinii 9-18 (se potriveste perfect)
+ montajul aditional pt intarzierea porniri sistemului NAV+ odata cu punerea contactului (delay 5 secunde ca sa nu mai clipeasca km parcursi de pe bord)

pret total - 65 RON
sistemul functioneaza perfect, are control deplin al computerului de bord si o gramada de functii, GPS functioneaza perfect la fel si GSM, are semnal maxim si poti vb chiar si incet pt ca pers te va auzi f bine.

Bafta tuturor
Ah, era sa uit, durata aproximativa pt montaj a fost de o zi.

[ice man]

auras.tl11, on 27 May 2010 - 05:44 PM, said:

nu stiu ce sa fac cel care o vinde spune ca nu cere cod ca el a avuto montata pe un stilo si ca nu a facut nicio modificare ca sa potrivit mufele si oo are de ceva vreme

funny....
eu sunt vanzatorul acestei navigatii ....am vandut o unui baiat din Tm care mi a zis ca in 10 min a montat o si a mers de minune

[Sorinica_88]

salut baieti...de curand am achizitionat un connect nav(nu stiu daca e plus sau normal), cred ca e connect nav simplu, in stanga jos scrie 8.5 .l-am pus pe masina si pt inceput vreau sa-l folosesc doar ca mp3 si radio. Functioneaza aceste functii, doar ca dupa 20 min se stinge si daca vreau sa setez ora sau sa schimb limba, nu ma lasa, imi da eroare....am inteles ca trebuie un cd de soft sau update....aveti idee cum as putea sa il fac sa mearga fara sa se stinga, si sa schimb limba pe engleza? astept raspuns....

[uscovu]

sal.
pt inceput, daca vrei sa nu se mai stinga dupa 20 min va trebui sa ii faci conexiunea la pinul 4 si la contact. Daca il resoftezi nu vei rezolva absolut nimic iar la faza cu ceasul e tot din cauza pinului 4. Cu ajutorul acelui pin se stabileste conexiunea/reteaua cu computerul de bord.
Daca ai nevoie de cd de update si setup disc lasa-mi un mesaj si iti dau eu versiunea ce am pus la navigatia mea 11.

PS daca display-ul e color este connect nav+.

[Sorinica_88]

mersi "uscovu" pt. informatii...numai bine!

[uscovu]

este tipic blocarea update-ului la 50% dar asta este doar pt cateva minute, cei care nu au avut rabdare si au intrerupt procesul s-au ales cu unitatea praf (graba strica treaba). orice unitate cn+ se blocheaza la 50 % si tre sa o lasi in pace ci ai sa vezi ca dupa cateva minute sare direct la 75 si pe urma 100%. Toate acestea tre facute fara sa fie contactul pus, adica, reteaua dintre cn si computer de bord sa fie inactiva iar cand procesul e gata va iesi discul afara si re restarteaza, moment in care tre sa introduci set-up disc si...cam atat
Pinul 4 tre sa-l introduci tu in mufa veche de alimetare si sa fie legat la contact.

ti-am trimis 2 mail-uri la adresa indicata.

[Sorinica_88]

uscovu, on 16 April 2011 - 07:08 PM, said:

ti-am trimis 2 mail-uri la adresa indicata.

mersi inca o data...

[Sorinica_88]

mai am inca o problema...dupa ce am conectat Naviul de CB al masinii (dupa cum m-a sfatuit uscovu), acum imi cere cod ...naspa e ca nushtu de une sal iau, pt ca tipul de la care am luat navigatia nul mai are...aveti idee cum as putea sa fac rost de codul pt navi?? p.s. am seria de sasiu a masinii pe care a fost navigatia inainte, daca ma ajuta cumva....

[uscovu]

se poate rescrie softul si cam atat nu va mai fi nevoie de nici un cod

[Sorinica_88]

uscovu, on 20 April 2011 - 11:43 PM, said:

se poate rescrie softul si cam atat nu va mai fi nevoie de nici un cod

uscovu raman dator la tine...mersi de sfaturi....pana la urma am reusit sa montez CN+ la CB masinii, si merge brici, fara sa mai ceara master cod....numai bine!!

[b37gib]

am si eu o intrebare,pe navi asta se pot vedea filme?citeste doar cd sau si dvd?

[uscovu]

daca faci ceva modificari pe procesorul de imagine ii poti scoate o intreare RGB. eu unul nu as incerca. de citit doar cd audio si mp3mai exact, doar CD-R.

[b37gib]

a deci nu pot vedea un film de ex...